While reading/watching both articles I came across
both some very interesting and positive ways for looking at life and also
some very negative outlooks. In the video “Manhood, Feminism, & the mindset
that leads to rape” Terry Crews came out with a very positive way at looking at
a new form of self-worth and prosperity in life while in the article “Why you shouldn’t
have children” came off as very hateful and negative towards traditional
woman-hood and having children. I believe that if both authors were to sit down
and try and have dinner together the restaurant would end up having to restrain
the author of “Why you shouldn’t have children” due to the fact that she would
probably end up standing on top of the dining table screaming “DEATH TO
CHILDREN AND CHILDBEARING WOMEN” with her fork up in the air and mashed potatoes
flying everywhere. Okay… so maybe I’m being a little mellow dramatic but my
goodness. I have never been so pumped about living life in a more natural form
like what Terry Crews is trying to promote to then being slammed in the face by
a bitter woman who hates the fact that she has the God given ability to bear
children and thinks everyone who does have children should only be looked at as
women who obviously regret their decision and wish they could have had more
productive lives like “Coco Chanel”. I think Terry Crews would definitely reply
to her article by saying instead of looking at her having children as a “gender
role” that made her “Fuck it all up” to instead look at her life as a “Gender purpose”
and to appreciate her “necessary value in life” and do it to the fullest
potential. I really don’t feel like they would particularly agree on anything that
I read/ heard from the two articles. Although both articles were interesting to
say the least, I was really moved at the message that Terry Crews was trying to
convey throughout his interview, and as for the woman in the other article I was
really quite offended. I feel like instead of empowering women to be “productive
members of the world” like she was before children, she instead made me frown
upon her own judgement of women who do decide to have children and be excited
to just be a mom. I don’t feel like you have to be a damn CEO, live in a big
home, drive a nice car, be CoCo Chanel, or even have kids to be successful in
life. Success is about finding true joy in the life you live and loving who you’re
around and what you’re about.
Baleigh, I must say I think you might have had the wrong idea about what Caitlin Moran had to say about having children. She was not condemning mothers for making the choice to have children at all. What Caitlin was so bothered by was the fact that people pressure women, even young girls, into having children. They ask women when they are going to have kids, assuming that all women MUST want kids. When a person decides that they would rather not devote the rest of their life to children, that decision should be respected. Caitlin is disturbed by the negative thoughts toward childless women and the fact that people cannot just respect others' life decisions. I think Terry Crews would actually agree with Caitlin on a few points she made. Terry feels when someone brings someone else down in order to make themselves look better, they are missing the whole point. He says that feminists who bash men as a whole are not seeing the big picture. It is about equality, not one group being dominant over the other group. I think he would agree with Caitlin's point that mothers who look down on women for not having kids are doing an injustice and that it needs to stop. He would agree that women should be able to decide this huge decision on their own without societal pressure and without being looked down upon.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching Terry Crews's video I must say that I was highly impressed with his mindset and the way he spoke about certain subjects. It was refreshing seeing him speak so intelligently on a serious note, because the only time I saw him was in movies acting a fool lol. I agree with the above statement about hearing his video and realizing a new self worth about the rape subject. He was right about men only targeting women that they feel are property, or have greater control . If they feel like a person could defend themselves then they wouldn't even attempt to harm them. After reading the other article, I was feeling a certain type of way at her approach, I was not a fan so I honestly stopped reading.
ReplyDeleteI overall like the article you wrote and I must say that I have to agree with you on the matter on how to authors/actor approached the topics. Terry did give off a very positive vibe while also getting his point across on how women are treated different in society and that it needs to change. He even classified himself as a "feminist" and approached it very positively. However, I agree you with on the matter that the article was very negative and had an overall feeling of anger/jealousy. To me I felt like the author maybe wanted to be a man or something, but hey thats just me. She literally wrote seven pages complaining the entire time and in all honesty it kind of ticked me off how she jumped to conclusions and talked for all women. Who is she to speak for how women feel and should act. She was a bias prick and should not be al allowed to write in the future. I will agree that Terry would agree would her on some points about society pressuring women, but I have to agree with Cordel^ and I lost interest immediately. I will retire with this final statement that the article was trash and the video was marginal and I hope to never see either again.
ReplyDeleteI totally did not like the " Why you shouldn't have children" article, nor the author's attitude. First of all, the title is stupid; if no female had children there would be a serious problem in the world. Second, I find it extremely shelfish how she gives an ultimatum whether your either successfull in life, or you are cut short by having kids. There is so many women who are successful even after having kids. My mom gave birth to me, and she completed her Bachelors degree four years after I was born and lives a great life.
ReplyDeleteAt first I was skeptical about Terry Crew's video and I thought he was going to suck up to girls by pretending to be some feminist, but he had some good points and I liked his views concerning how he raised his kids. Terry Crews and the previous Author would have a huge argument concerning how the impact of the parents is when a child is born. The Child-Hater author said a mom loses all her potential when a kid is born, and the father doesn't waste anything and it is like nothing happend, which is extremely disrespectful to all fathers who raise their children as well. Terry Crews said he raises his kids doing '' Mother" chores his wife would normally do when she is out of town working. Terry and his wife both spend the same time raising their kids, going to similar unlike the Child-Hater author.
I disagree with you on the article on “Why You Shouldn’t Have Children,” because I think you got the wrong idea from it. I think what the author is trying to say women shouldn’t feel the pressure of having children because it’s what is expected of them. They shouldn’t be pressured into what is considered a gender norms and fall into the stereotypical house wife. I actually like the fact that she is so blatantly honest about how society views women when they are asked the question “do you plan on having kids?” Yes, saying, “When are you going to fuck it all up by having kids?” is kind of ruthless but it’s what a lot of women now a days feel. WE DO NOT WANT KIDS. Back then it’s kind of common sense for a woman to grow up and get married and have kids, but in today’s world women are just as independent as men. Most women are focused more on their career now and having a kid will most likely get in the way; not saying that you can’t have a kid and a career at the same time. But it would put a strain on it. What the author is trying to say is regardless most women will have kids but she’s saying they shouldn’t have to feel the pressure of bearing a child because it’s what’s expected.
DeleteI would completely agree that after viewing Terry Crews’s interview I felt empowered by the idea of equality. He really hooked me when he said “that some men are afraid of the idea of feminism because everyone is afraid of being controlled”. Terry then of course showing his eagerness for equality shared about how that concept is misconstrued then claimed that equality is part of a mindset. Honestly when hearing that saying I loved it so much I tweeted it. “We’re battling mindsets”, to be exact is what Terry had said. I believe Terry mentioning this quote relates even to the article “Why You Shouldn’t Have Children” the article in which Caitlin Morgan conveys the common concept throughout society that all women are expected to have children. I think the negativity you’ve detected throughout the article is based upon what Morgan has detected within our own society. I wouldn’t agree with you saying that she is bashing women about having kids, but I would say that she is just calling into question the moral reasons as to why women are having kids. I actually agree with Morgan in some aspects as to why women are automatically assumed this pressure that society has created. Terry when he said “we’re battling mindsets” is just another form of proof that we as a society are always at war with what is expected of each other based upon our gender roles and identity.
ReplyDeleteThanks for commenting guys, I really like what each of you had to say! Very interesting points of views, I liked them all. :)
ReplyDeleteAfter reading/watching both articles, I agree and understand where you’re coming from with how you felt that Caitlin Moran was being very negative and almost attacking women that have children. She does seem very bitter and angry towards the fact that women in this world want to have children and continue the family tree. She makes it sound like the worst time, saying that it’s “a minimum 18-year commitment at full throttle; followed by another 40 years of part-time fretting, money lending, and getting on their nerves…” The way she just described having children would make me never want a child in my life. She listed everything negative that should could possibly think of instead. I agree with the fact that you said not every woman in the world wants to be a rich and successful CEO of a company who lives in a huge house in a prestigious city. Success is all about if you’re happy and comfortable in your own life, which for some means that they’ll have children. She makes children sound like a burden when in some people’s lives, children could be the biggest blessing. I know many women who want at least 3 or more children because they love kids, not because they feel that that’s the easiest option and what they’re supposed to be doing in life.
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